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		<title>By: Robert Fischer</title>
		<link>http://enfranchisedmind.com/blog/posts/this-has-simply-gone-on-too-long/#comment-31494</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the courts matter, US citizens can&#039;t be &quot;unlawful enemy combatants&quot;.

Of course, if they&#039;ve clandestinely picked you up and dropped you into a concentration camp without any rights or outside contact, it&#039;s awfully hard to sue them for your freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the courts matter, US citizens can&#8217;t be &#8220;unlawful enemy combatants&#8221;.</p>
<p>Of course, if they&#8217;ve clandestinely picked you up and dropped you into a concentration camp without any rights or outside contact, it&#8217;s awfully hard to sue them for your freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://enfranchisedmind.com/blog/posts/this-has-simply-gone-on-too-long/#comment-31492</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am again and again reminded of the prescience of Paul Krugman&#039;s preface to &quot;The Great Unravelling&quot;.  In this preface, he talks about Henry Kissinger&#039;s PhD dissertation about the problems of a &quot;stable diplomatic order&quot; has when facing a &quot;revolutionary power&quot;- one that does not recognize  the legitimacy of the system and seeks to overthrow it.

It should be clear beyond debate at this point that the Bush administration is just such a revolutionary power- that it does not accept the legitimacy of and seeks to undermine constitutional democracy.  The Bush administration will break the law &lt;EM&gt;simply to prove that they can&lt;/EM&gt;, and to undermine the rule of law.

Note that seeking to completely eliminate the New Deal programs does not make you unamerican- wrong, yes, but not unamerican.  Seeking to the President and his allies above the law- &lt;EM&gt;that&lt;/EM&gt; makes you unamerican.  Another name for the &quot;unitary executive&quot; is &quot;king&quot;.  

As a revolutionary power in the Kissinger sense, there is no limit to what the Bush administration would be willing to do- the only question is wether there is a limit to what they are able to do, and at what point will they be forcibly stopped.  Declaring martial law?  Arresting Democratic senators and congressmen?  Arresting Democrats, and rounding them up into &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.alternet.org/rights/42458/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;already built concentration camps&lt;/A&gt;?  I would put none of these beyond what Bush would like to do, and I am uncertain in they are beyond what the Bush administration is capable of doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am again and again reminded of the prescience of Paul Krugman&#8217;s preface to &#8220;The Great Unravelling&#8221;.  In this preface, he talks about Henry Kissinger&#8217;s PhD dissertation about the problems of a &#8220;stable diplomatic order&#8221; has when facing a &#8220;revolutionary power&#8221;- one that does not recognize  the legitimacy of the system and seeks to overthrow it.</p>
<p>It should be clear beyond debate at this point that the Bush administration is just such a revolutionary power- that it does not accept the legitimacy of and seeks to undermine constitutional democracy.  The Bush administration will break the law <em>simply to prove that they can</em>, and to undermine the rule of law.</p>
<p>Note that seeking to completely eliminate the New Deal programs does not make you unamerican- wrong, yes, but not unamerican.  Seeking to the President and his allies above the law- <em>that</em> makes you unamerican.  Another name for the &#8220;unitary executive&#8221; is &#8220;king&#8221;.  </p>
<p>As a revolutionary power in the Kissinger sense, there is no limit to what the Bush administration would be willing to do- the only question is wether there is a limit to what they are able to do, and at what point will they be forcibly stopped.  Declaring martial law?  Arresting Democratic senators and congressmen?  Arresting Democrats, and rounding them up into <a HREF="http://www.alternet.org/rights/42458/" rel="nofollow">already built concentration camps</a>?  I would put none of these beyond what Bush would like to do, and I am uncertain in they are beyond what the Bush administration is capable of doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Enfranchised Mind &#187; Letters to My Congresspeople</title>
		<link>http://enfranchisedmind.com/blog/posts/this-has-simply-gone-on-too-long/#comment-31478</link>
		<dc:creator>Enfranchised Mind &#187; Letters to My Congresspeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 04:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I just can&#8217;t take it anymore, so I wrote those in Congress who represent me: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I just can&#8217;t take it anymore, so I wrote those in Congress who represent me: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Fischer</title>
		<link>http://enfranchisedmind.com/blog/posts/this-has-simply-gone-on-too-long/#comment-31476</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 03:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the quote.  It&#039;s going into my letters to my Congresspeople.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Roberts said that because of Bush&#039;s unpopularity, the Republicans face a total wipeout in 2008, and this may be why &quot;the Democrats have not brought a halt to Bush&#039;s follies or the war, because they expect his unpopular policies to provide them with a landslide victory in next year&#039;s election.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s the part that frustrates and scares me the most.  The Democrats seem to be playing more into playing politics and/or pussyfooting around than doing the necessary and hard work from that country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quote.  It&#8217;s going into my letters to my Congresspeople.</p>
<blockquote><p>Roberts said that because of Bush&#8217;s unpopularity, the Republicans face a total wipeout in 2008, and this may be why &#8220;the Democrats have not brought a halt to Bush&#8217;s follies or the war, because they expect his unpopular policies to provide them with a landslide victory in next year&#8217;s election.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s the part that frustrates and scares me the most.  The Democrats seem to be playing more into playing politics and/or pussyfooting around than doing the necessary and hard work from that country.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://enfranchisedmind.com/blog/posts/this-has-simply-gone-on-too-long/#comment-31470</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not alone.  I mean, consider this quote:

&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Whose the paranoid conspiracy theorist, some far left Republican-hating radical?  No.  It&#039;s &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Oldline_Republican_warns_somethings_in_works_0719.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reagan&#039;s Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts&lt;/A&gt;.  Even intelligent, honest Republicans are starting to worry.

This also explains the &quot;stupidity&quot; of the Republicans in the Senate defending the war.  They don&#039;t have to worry about repurcussions in the election if there isn&#039;t going to be an election...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not alone.  I mean, consider this quote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whose the paranoid conspiracy theorist, some far left Republican-hating radical?  No.  It&#8217;s <a HREF="http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Oldline_Republican_warns_somethings_in_works_0719.html" rel="nofollow">Reagan&#8217;s Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts</a>.  Even intelligent, honest Republicans are starting to worry.</p>
<p>This also explains the &#8220;stupidity&#8221; of the Republicans in the Senate defending the war.  They don&#8217;t have to worry about repurcussions in the election if there isn&#8217;t going to be an election&#8230;</p>
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