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	<title>Comments on: Grails Job Graph</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Hurt</title>
		<link>http://enfranchisedmind.com/blog/posts/grails-jobs/#comment-33935</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Hurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The crude name I have for this sort of comparison is &quot;dick size wars&quot;.  I mean, comparing the number of ruby jobs to the number of cobol jobs is exactly what I mean: who cares if there&#039;s more ruby jobs than cobol jobs or not: do you really &lt;EM&gt;want&lt;/EM&gt; any of those cobol jobs?  Really?  Stuck maintaining some thirty year old batch-oriented corporate payroll processing job whose architecture is best described as a &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.laputan.org/mud/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;big ball of mud&lt;/A&gt; (and you need to become the main swamp guide), in a language that is synonymous with stupidity in the programming world?  Or get involved in some startup doing the next generation must-use web application?  

Which would you rather have on your resume in five years time?  Which would you rather being doing &lt;EM&gt;today&lt;/EM&gt;?  All jobs are not created equal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crude name I have for this sort of comparison is &#8220;dick size wars&#8221;.  I mean, comparing the number of ruby jobs to the number of cobol jobs is exactly what I mean: who cares if there&#8217;s more ruby jobs than cobol jobs or not: do you really <em>want</em> any of those cobol jobs?  Really?  Stuck maintaining some thirty year old batch-oriented corporate payroll processing job whose architecture is best described as a <a HREF="http://www.laputan.org/mud/" rel="nofollow">big ball of mud</a> (and you need to become the main swamp guide), in a language that is synonymous with stupidity in the programming world?  Or get involved in some startup doing the next generation must-use web application?  </p>
<p>Which would you rather have on your resume in five years time?  Which would you rather being doing <em>today</em>?  All jobs are not created equal.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kimsal</title>
		<link>http://enfranchisedmind.com/blog/posts/grails-jobs/#comment-33933</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kimsal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, FWIW, searching for &quot;ruby&quot; is around 4200 and &quot;cobol&quot; is around 3400, so I think ruby has surpassed cobol, at least per indeed.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, FWIW, searching for &#8220;ruby&#8221; is around 4200 and &#8220;cobol&#8221; is around 3400, so I think ruby has surpassed cobol, at least per indeed.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kimsal</title>
		<link>http://enfranchisedmind.com/blog/posts/grails-jobs/#comment-33932</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kimsal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s some truth in what you&#039;re concluding.  Also, there are some Java positions I&#039;ve seen where they&#039;re advertising for &quot;Rails or Grails&quot; experience.  So, that&#039;s going to add in to the &quot;Rails&quot; numbers, even though it&#039;s pretty likely that the actual work would end up being Grails work.  

On the flip side, search for &quot;struts&quot; and you&#039;ll find 8000 positions.  Search for &quot;Grails&quot; and you get 129.  &quot;groovy +java&quot; is a bit better - 232.  Still a bit on the bleak side, regardless of how you slice the numbers.  Would love to see these numbers go up much higher (obviously)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s some truth in what you&#8217;re concluding.  Also, there are some Java positions I&#8217;ve seen where they&#8217;re advertising for &#8220;Rails or Grails&#8221; experience.  So, that&#8217;s going to add in to the &#8220;Rails&#8221; numbers, even though it&#8217;s pretty likely that the actual work would end up being Grails work.  </p>
<p>On the flip side, search for &#8220;struts&#8221; and you&#8217;ll find 8000 positions.  Search for &#8220;Grails&#8221; and you get 129.  &#8220;groovy +java&#8221; is a bit better &#8211; 232.  Still a bit on the bleak side, regardless of how you slice the numbers.  Would love to see these numbers go up much higher (obviously)</p>
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