Dear deficit “hawks”: bite me

Here’s the problem I have with the recent furor over the deficit and the debt: my long term memory still works. See, I remember George W. Bush. I know it was a long time ago (eighteen months), and for those with the memories of fruit flies, let me remind you: the debt philosophy of the Bush administration, as articulated by vice president Dick Cheney, was “Reagan proved deficits don’t matter”. And they lived by this philosophy. The debt in 2001 (Bush’s first budget) stood at $5.8 trillion- by 2009 (Obama’s first budget), it stood at $11.9 trillion, and increase of over $6 trillion. Over 8 years. That’s an average of $750 billion in new debt every year W was president. And, outside of the liberal blogsphere and Paul Krugman, I don’t remember anyone saying a god damned thing about the deficit. For eight years.

But then, some time in 2009, something changed. The deficit “hawks”, who had spent eight years silent, suddenly awoke to the massive danger the debt posed, and took up their abandoned positions yet again. Now, all of a sudden, we’re treated to daily broadsides on the danger of the debt, and the need to eliminate the deficit immediately. Which leads me to ask: why now?

A word on Occam’s razor, as it will come up- Occam’s razor only applies between two theories that explain (“fit”) all the data. If a theory doesn’t explain all the facts, the fact that it’s simpler is irrelevant. So the plaintive cry that we can’t keep deficit spending doesn’t explain why you (and everyone else) were silent during the Bush years (if you were not silent, please post links- and the following comments don’t apply to you).

The one theory I’ve come up with that fits all the facts is that it’s not the deficit that matters- but what the deficit is spent on. Spend the deficit on wars and tax cuts, and that’s OK- but spending the deficit helping the poor, the sick, the unemployed, the hungry- what the heck do you think this is, a Christian nation? The ruling ideology around these parts is Darwinism- Social Darwinism, to be precise.

This theory is especially accurate in predicting the deficit “hawks” response to current budgetary items. Even if you accept that now the deficit is a problem in a way it wasn’t eighteen months ago, doesn’t it make sense now to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire, and to end the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq sooner rather than later, on the grounds that we can’t afford them? And wouldn’t it make sense, as a deficit hawk, to support legislation that saves more money than it costs? Take, for example, health care reform- which yes, costs $900 billion over the next 10 years, but saves $1.1 trillion (for a net savings of $200 billion), as the health care bill did. Granted, that’s a small savings, but as a deficit hawk, doesn’t every little bit help?

This theory also explains why, according the Republicans, extensions to the unemployment benefits must be fully paid for- but extending Bush’s tax cuts don’t. The alternative theory I have- that deficits are OK if a Republican is President, but not OK if a Democrat is President, doesn’t explain the deficit “hawk” stands on these current issues.

Note that it can make perfect sense to have opposed the Bush deficits at the time, and support the Obama deficits now, and not be just a Democratic partisan (“deficits are OK if a Democrat is President”). The theory here is to save for a rainy day, but that if it’s raining, now is the time to spend the money you have been saving. And it’s economically raining cats and dogs right now- the highest unemployment rate since the great depression is predicted to continue to be high for years, and we’re up against the zero bound (the Fed can’t lower interest rates below 0%), so conventional monetary policy (lower interest rates to stimulate the economy) doesn’t work. So now is a really good time for some Kenynesian stimulus spending, with the understanding that when the good times return, we pay off/down the the debt.

A school administrator once explained to me, when I asked why I was being punished for being attacked, that it wasn’t a fight until I hit back. By this definition, what the deficit “hawks” are doing is not class warfare. After all, it’s not a class war until the other side fights back. But this does explain why my reaction to these so-called deficit hawks is the same as my reaction that administrator, years ago.

Bite me.

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  • https://hartsock.blogspot.com/ Shawn Hartsock

    When you are rich and powerful and want to justify holding your social position using Darwinism it’s called “Social Darwinism”, when you want to use Theism it’s called “Divine Right”, and when you want to use Christianity it’s called “Prosperity Doctrine”.

    No matter what the basic belief system is, underneath it all the fundamental motivation is still basically a form of tribalism that is trying to justify why when “we” want something it is “right and good” but when “they” want the exact same thing it is “wrong and evil.” The truth is (in this case at least) there is no us and them there is only “we the people.”

    • http://www.robertcfischer.com Robert Fischer

      I’m not sure we have to talk outright tribalism to explain this. It’s much more simple, I think: when you start with the conclusion, then the only arguments that are valid are those arguments supporting your conclusion. As a politician, you check your polls and your party, and you say, “X is popular/a party plank/my cash cow. Therefore, I am for X. If Y is an argument for X, then Y is what I believe.” Note that consistency has no basis in this calculation, because nobody cares to remember.

  • Dianne Fischer

    When we look to deficits you need to look back, beyond the past administration that has been demonized even by it’s own party. Bush senior inherited some messy finances. he was in the process of turning things around when he left office. All Clinton had to do was not screw it up. Being a very bright man he chose to screw things other than the economy. W came on the scene and here came the good ole boys to protect their interests. (A very dark time to be a Republican) Probably would have worked if the country hadn’t been attacked and a war broke out. Wars have always caused huge deficits.

    Be careful quoting the health care package as paying for itself. It too is a case of cronyism (sp?) and the insurance companies will be huge winners. Government guarantee to increase their customer base and 5 years to rev up their prices to cover it. And , oh, by the way even the GAO admits it doesn’t attribute all the costs to the health care bill. it omitted payments to doctors. Most likely a tidy sum that will increase as there are no cost cutting measures in this bill. And it didn’t include all the ongoing costs of the many, many new government agencies being created in this bill.

    Did you know the one place in the nation not suffering from the recession is Washington DC?

    So why all the current interest in the deficit? Purely political fluff. A play to the 24/7 talking heads that dominate what we call the news today. Also, the ultra conservative Republicans are losing their moderate base and now are turning their attention to fiscal matter and trying to push away from the social reforms they have pushed in the last decade. all this in hopes of not being tossed out on their greedy little ears.

    Of course, if you want to pay your part of the deficit all you have to do is cough up over $45,000 for every man, woman and child in the US. At some point, whether its current hype or not, that has to get paid.

  • http://www.robertcfischer.com Robert Fischer

    It’s unfair to say that nobody except Krugman and the liberal blogs got into this. The overspending by Bush was criticized quite a bit by fiscal conservatives and it was one of the things that made space for Ron Paul’s run. Here’s some cites: CATO and Washington Times (see the paragraph beginning “With a Republican-controlled Congress offering little resistance”). If a blogger posts in a conservative blog and Brian isn’t there to hear it, it’s still posted.

    The fact that the Republican party is suddenly talking about budget controls is the same reason the Democrats aren’t talking civil liberties anymore: political game-playing. And remember when Democrats talked about reigning in spending and fiscal control when slamming Bush? Where’d that talk go?

  • http://clubjuggler.com/ Tanner Lovelace

    Back in 2001 I advocated paying down our debt rather than giving people tax cuts. It would have made sense to save during years with budget surpluses so that we wouldn’t have any problems borrowing during lean/crisis years.

    It looks like Asia figured this out: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/24/keynes-in-asia/

    So, why can’t we?

  • http://www.robertcfischer.com Robert Fischer

    Paul Snively on Twitter notes that PorkBusters.org was also very active during the Bush admin.

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